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Gohan against Rildo
Topic Started: Apr 21 2013, 11:42 PM (2,395 Views)
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When Gohan was going up against Rildo, he should of beaten him pretty easy. Yet, Rildo showed an advantage, catching him with his Meta Freeze Beam.

Maybe it's not so inconsistent that Rildo had the advantage.

In the past, Gohan showed he likes to toy with his opponents, or more, not finish a fight as quick as it should be.

Maybe he was just fighting around with Rildo before he decided to get serious. But then got caught, just like Cell caught him when turning a bomb into his body. And Super Boo Boo catching him by absorbing Gotenks.

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Edited by Professor Gohan, Apr 21 2013, 11:44 PM.
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It's possible, but wasn't Rild close to Base Kakarrot, who was above Baby SS Gohan. I think he increased some between the two arcs, but I don't think it was that much.
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Well I have Rildo a good amount stronger than Buuhan

Buuhan: 100
Gohan: 125
Rildo: 140
Base Goku: 150

Rildo could have an advantage over base.
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Right. But remember, Gohan had time to get stronger in between the arcs as well. That one is a possibility. If not by training, then he got stronger from the Baby power up.

He should still be stronger than Rildo. Maybe by not much though.
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Can you remind me, did he fight base or meta Rildo?
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Base Rildo. Both were in Base.

They were fighting a little and Rildo caught him with the Beam.
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Right. Yeah it's kind of demented really. Maybe the Baby boost wasn't that big?
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Apr 21 2013, 11:52 PM
Right. But remember, Gohan had time to get stronger in between the arcs as well. That one is a possibility. If not by training, then he got stronger from the Baby power up.

He should still be stronger than Rildo. Maybe by not much though.
But there's nothing that implies that the increase was permanent, Vegeta's wasn't so I don't see why Gohan would be any different.

I do see him increasing, but not to that point.
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How come it wasn't permanent?

Vegeta kept his. He was a great deal stronger by the time of Super 17 arc.

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Gohan(BOGT) > Vegeta(BOGT)

Vegeta(S17 arc) > Gohan(S17 arc)
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I doubt that the Z warriors didn't train at all from what I could tell but yet Baby wanted Vegeta's body P. Gohan.
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That because: What's better than taking over the Prince and enslaving his people for revenge? Haven't you heard that one before?

That's Baby's reasons. For getting Vegeta.

Gohan was still remains the strongest at the Beginning of GT. Therefore, proving Vegeta got a boost and kept it for the S17 saga.

The same should have happened for Gohan, even if he was infected because it was stated that Goten's ki was mixed with Baby's as a huge power up so he may of kept it as well.

They both have shown to become more powerful, if not in the S17 arc, then in the Shadow Dragons arc. What? a day later or so?

So they've either gotten stronger from training or keeping the power from the infection.
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How come it wasn't permanent?

Vegeta kept his. He was a great deal stronger by the time of Super 17 arc.

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Gohan(BOGT) > Vegeta(BOGT)

Vegeta(S17 arc) > Gohan(S17 arc)
Vegeta was already implied to be stronger than Gohan in the Baby arc, Baby was after the Strongest Saiyan on Earth, if Gohan was the strongest then Baby wouldn't have possessed Vegeta, he would have stopped at Gohan.

Besides SS Vegeta was stronger than Baby SS Gohan, look at their fight, Gohan was out of breath, and Vegeta was smirking at Gohan and about to finish him off.
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Like I said before, that's because Baby wanted the Prince of all Saiyans. Part of his plan. That's during the Baby arc though. 1 or 2 years later. Giving Vegeta enough time to train and pass him.

The events of Rildo were sometime sometime in between.

My point is BOGT. I'm thinking that may be closer to Rildo. Vegeta still under Gohan.

If that was the case, that would make Vegeta stronger than Goku. We know that's not how it is. Gohan gets passed closer in the Baby arc, but that shouldn't matter between his power when stronger than Goku. And when Goku fought Rildo.
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That still doesn't explain saying Gohan>Vegeta.

Vegeta was obviously stronger than Baby Gohan, he was tiring out, Vegeta was still very fresh.

It took Baby Gohan and Goten to get an advantage over Vegeta, and he still blew them back when he powered up.

Yes, Baby had revenge set for Vegeta, but Baby Gohan was Still not enough to overpower Vegeta.
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I'm saying Gohan > Vegeta because that's how everything started out. Which are closer events to Goku fighting Rildo.

Midway:

Episode 7
Context: Pan's reply to the Village Elder questioning the possibility of Zunama being defeated
Pan: It's okay! On our planet, Grandpa and Trunks are the first and second strongest people there are. And, although I hate to say it, I'm number three. Right?
Trunks: Well...you may be giving me too much credit by saying I'm second. After all, there's Gohan-san, and Dad, not to mention Piccolo-san...

Wouldn't Vegeta have been mentioned first?

He doesn't pass Gohan until the Baby arc. Gohan should be stronger than everyone before then.

When Goku fights Rildo, he's stronger than Gohan. Ok. But Gohan got a boost to be stronger than Rildo. He's still surpassed by Goku and Vegeta.
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